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Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:31 am
by DanG
What about to write here shouldn't be taken seriously. It's a subjective trip. You shouldn't try to follow anything. Don't even consider to remember it. I just feel the need to talk about this so i can put my experience into words.

I did it yesterday, without preparations, without meditating just sat infront of the computer turned on some icaro music and then you know. This was just plain leaf that i collected from previous failed plant shipments. I filled up a bowl in my small pipe and had two hits. I was already blasting off after the first toke but i decided to have another.

I won't talk about much of what i saw but i have come to a lot of realizations... This time the experience was enlightening but i am in no way joyful nor depressed. The feeling is like "i am just here...", like a void, it's very odd.

1st realization:
I should train my mind during sober times to recognize that i am tripping to have a better understanding of what i am experiencing. This an be done by serious dedication to focus. Meditation exercises the mind.

2nd:
Should just let go and just watch and try to remember the experience. What i mean by letting go is to forget everything except the now.

3rd:
The coating/skinning feeling i get during the early stages of the trip is probably my oversensitivity to the sweat breaking on my pores. I realized this when i was still tripping.

4th:
Reality... is dependent on memory. The trip toyed with my reality. It's like every small action became an independent experience. Imagine it like a tableau except everytime you see the pose it's always new and you don't even know what happened during the intervals. It's like a new dream every second. It's still difficult to explain but i can feel it's beauty. I feel that i take a lot of minute things for granted. I never thought just by slightly moving my index finger that it's already beautiful. It's too complicated to explain... it just a great feeling after i figured out what happened.

5th:
Reality is again not as concrete as i thought it is. I've decided not to pay attention to the being(a black figure all the time) in my trips because they are based on my subjective reality. It happens in my brain and my brain alone, it is not the Truth. I should just learn from the experience philosophically not supernaturally.

6th:
My vision(eyesight) is limited. what i mean by this is that there are actually edges on my vision and now i understand it completely. Eyesight has boundaries and what i don't see infront of me is just black. I took this for granted but it's understandable because this is how i see since day 1 of my conscious life.

7th:
Life is precious when you think beyond the ego. I shouldn't be attached to the ego as it limits my reception of the beauty this(my) reality can offer. Again i am in no way jovial, i don't even know what i am feeling right now but one thing is for certain. I want more. I want to experience every detail of reality... I wish i can do this full time.

8th:
There are no reasons. There are just actions

Re: Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:04 am
by Ulmdorgr
Moved to the correct forum.

Re: Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:16 am
by DanG
Where did i place it? Must have been spacing out haha

Re: Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:18 pm
by Ulmdorgr
Guides, etc.

Re: Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:57 am
by swatch
Hi. I appreciate your words. Thanks for sharing.

If I may, I'd like to ask a question. You mentioned you just used plain leaf. I'm now growing my own plants, and I've stored an "altoids" box full of crushed leaves, but when I smoked a pipe full of them about a month ago, I didn't feel much of anything. I had what I would call a "recollection" of some random thoughts, but nothing like what I'm used to. I didn't even get what I call "the wave", which is one of my favorite aspects. See, I started with extracts, so I'm wondering if by growing these plants, nursing them, and partaking of their leaves, will I ever experience what you did with just 1x instead of what I've been used to for almost a year now, which is 10x, 15x, and 20x.

Thanks again for your posting. I have felt similar things you mentioned with regards to the reality of things, and how you feel "numb" or "just here". I also remember reading another member's posting where they mentioned how right in the middle of your journey, you get this feeling like "oh yeah, this is that one little unpleasant feeling that I always get" and I don't know why, other than wondering to myself if it's just that we're not "supposed" to be seeing what we're seeing just yet. I seriously feel that for me, most of the journeys I have taken with this sacred plant, have given me the distinct impression that this is what death is like--just a slowly floating and rotating recollection of memories and random things that were experienced during your life, and then it fades out, but in the case of our beloved plant, we don't fade to black. We come back to this reality. I sincerely love the feeling I get, and while I have no other experiences with hallucinogenics, I can't imagine ever wanting anything more than this. I love the afterglow. Anyway, I'm digressing, and hijacking your post at the same time, and I'm sorry for that.

Oh, I also meant to ask...you mentioned about your vision. Does this mean you are able to keep your eyes opened the entire time, because hard as I try, I cannot. They always seem to close, which is fine for me, because I enjoy the ride. A couple of times I kept them opened as long as I could, and I started to see some pretty freaky stuff. 3D became 2D, like those little puzzles you slide the pieces around to make the picture. That's what I saw. Everything was drawn like vector graphics or with all the lines in everything. It was pretty neat.

Enjoy life!

Re: Philosophical Trip

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:16 am
by Ulmdorgr
Swatch, you're probably desensitized to a point, but your receptors should still active. A threshold dose from 1x should give you the same effect as 20x. The problem is that with raw leaf, you should be smoking like 2-4 bowls in repetition to get enough of the chemical. That's why raw leaf sucks for those of us who have dive bombed into the experience.

If I ever grow her, I'm not gonna smoke her gifts.

You know what's funny, I rarely keep my eyes open, but I think I could. The problem is that the disassociation that it causes makes your consciousness separate from your motor functions, so your body may or may not keep its eyes open while you're off traveling in the void, or watching a movie, or melting, or slithering along a barren land as a tentacle demon (one of my favorite experiences :P).